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Who are the good guys in the Israel/Palestine conflict? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If Israel has a working class, it is one of settlers, IDF soldiers, etc. Those are not the "good guys".

There is a longstanding and incorrect view of Western leftists in the capacity of the Israeli working class to build their power and address the injustices. That class has no capacity to do so whatsoever. They are fully bought-off by the ethnocentric project, both materially and psychologically. This is not very different from how other settler colonist "working classes" did the same. If anything, it is an important lesson that the working class is not a moral quantity, it is a group defined by its relation to production, and only through political education can it gain agency for positive change.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

They do have a working class, but your second point is all too true, which is why it has made no impact.