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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 8 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

well, sure, but with Trump going back to the big chair, and working against European interests in favor of Russian and Saudi ones, Europe is in a very bad spot, and is going to have to start making deal with Putin. no one wants to hear this, and I'm sorry for what is about to happen to Ukraine.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And i guess Taiwan will join the mainland soon without the US help china wont wait long

[–] Questy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They don't have to make deals with Putin, he can't handle the EU, and America will only help him economically. The EU is the last democratic super block, they need to stand up for those of us that still want democracy to survive. I'm Canadian, we're fucked. Japan just signed a comprehensive security pact with the EU. Obviously they have fascist leaders inside the house as well, but really, NATO is dead, we need them to step up. Here's hoping, with little conviction.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm Canadian too and yes we are

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Europe is big enough to manage without the us. If we start working together. Starting with building up a defence industry quickly. That won’t be pretty for the US MIC, but that’s Trump’s problem.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

ok. show me. see you in two years. good luck wit ze germans.

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I’m not saying it will happen. Just that it can be done with enough cooperation. And given the scale of the threat, it may happen