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Some of my recent attempts that did not work out.

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[–] tal 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

@M0oP0o@mander.xyz, as far as I can tell, you always use Bing Image Creator.

And as far as I can tell, @Thelsim@sh.itjust.works always uses Midjourney.

I don't use either. But as far as I know, neither service currently charges for generation of images. I don't know if there's some sort of different rate-limit that favors one over the other, or another reason to use Bing (perhaps Midjourney's model is intentionally not trained on Sailor Moon?), but I do believe that Midjourney can do a few things that Bing doesn't.

One of those is inpainting. Inpainting, for those who haven't used it, lets one start with an existing image, create a mask that specifies that only part of the image should be regenerated, and then regenerate that part of the image using a specified prompt (which might differ from the prompt used to generate the image as a whole). I know that Thelsim's used this feature before with Midjourney, because she once used it to update an image with some sort of poison witch image with hands over a green glowing pot, so I'm pretty sure that it's available to Midjourney general users.

I know that you recently expressed frustration with Bing's Image Creator's current functionality, wanted more.

Inpainting's time-consuming, but it can let a lot of images be rescued, rather than having to just re-reroll the whole image. Have you tried using Midjourney? Was there anything there that you found made it not acceptable?

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The inpainting has improved a lot since then. Recently they introduced an external editor that allows you to do more accurate inpainting and even retexturing.
For example, taking one of the images here.

With retexturing I can write: A 1900s photograph, of sailor moon and politicians and a xenomorph, in congress
And have it transformed while keeping the original characters:

There's also the option to repaint:

And to expand the image:

But things it doesn't do well is accurate stuff, like flags, characters, that kind of thing. It likes to hallucinate a little so, for example, you won't get a perfect flag. And even a sailor moon will often look a bit off-brand.

[–] tal 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks for trying it out! Both the inpainting and outpainting -- the expansion -- worked better than I'd expected, though I dunno if that's exactly what M0oP0o's after.

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, but I felt like sharing :)

The inpainting has definitely improved, a while ago it was impossible to get it to properly match the style of the rest of the image. You could always see where the original was altered. Now it blends much better with the rest of the image.
And inpainting of non-generated images is a recent thing, before that you could only alter images that Midjourney originally created.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeap, that is functionality I could use. Will have to try later.

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Another one I completely forgot about, I also have access to the NovelAI image generator, which is completely anime trained. It has a ton of different features that I never use. I just use it as a writing aid for myself, the image generation was kind of tacked on later but grew into it's own thing.

There's a mood changer:

Line art (which removes the dollar bill, weirdly enough ) :

And of course inpainting:

There's also some kind of outpainting, but like I said, I hardly ever use this tool. Here's a tutorial if you want to read more about it:
https://blog.novelai.net/tutorial-intro-to-image-generation-ef644a1a4885

Oh and it's completely privacy focused, so images are only saved to your computer.

cc: @M0oP0o@mander.xyz

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I will give it a try as well always good to have more options, and I am not 100% only free options.

Funny note on the images. Mine where failures because I could not get a normal sailormoon with a floating bill with wings and a halo. Its funny to see all these with the anglemoon and normal money.

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