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[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
  • Trump was a bigot, which is what a majority of Americans wanted.

Weird how so many of you demonize the largest most powerful organization of antifascists in America instead of those who voted to give Trump power. It's almost like you are trying to sow division in the anti-trump electorate 🤔

[–] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

largest most powerful organization of antifascists in America

Please do not insinuate that the Democratic Party is Anti-Fascist. They have have adopted Trump's 2016 border policy, are unconditionally funding a genocide, and will peacefully transfer power to those they acknowledge are fascists. They are not antifascists, they are merely the lesser fascists.

[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"The Democrats are fascists" is exactly the narrative MAGA espouses. When someone ostensibly anti-MAGA attacks the largest coalition of anti-MAGA forces, that person is pro-MAGA.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So in your mind no one can criticize the DNC's failure to stop fascism or its concessions to said fascist movemet? Our glorious leadership must be blindly followed no matter how many times they fail or give ground to fascists?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This sort of thinking is why Democrats keep repeating the same mistakes. Any sort of criticism, even if it's constructive, is treasonous. It's always someone else's fault.

Organizations either adapt or die. Rejection of criticism is a suicidal, accelerationist position. When people are so concerned with deflecting blame that they're incapable of performing an honest, frank assessment of which strategies work and which don't, then you are destined to fail no matter whether its a political party or anything else. If you'd prefer the Democrats keep doing things that don't work because you're afraid of them losing face, then your perspective is worthless.

[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Twisting of words and arguing against a point someone didn't make is a common alt-right "debate" strategy. Readers please note that I did not say that members of the Democratic party are above criticism. The person I am replying to continues to blame antifascists for the rise of fascism.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The car just slammed into a wall and it's backing up and preparing to slam in into the same wall for the third time, and I'm yelling at the driver to turn left so it doesn't hit the wall again, and your response is like, "Why are you criticizing the driver? You must be trying to distract them so the car crashes!"

Since you're totally not saying that the democrats are above criticism, since that's only me "twisting your words," why don't you tell me what the democrats did wrong that they could've done differently or could do differently in the future to avoid an outcome like this?