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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (51 children)

Why are y'all so scared of blaming the people in power who failed reaching voters?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (49 children)

why are y'all scared of taking responsibility for allowing a Nazi to gain power when you decided to not vote?

the DNC is out of touch with voters.

that doesn't absolve the electorate from failing to rally behind a candidate that was the best choice to stop a NAZI REGIME from taking power.

if you didn't vote, or voted 3rd party, you're no better than magats.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

why are y’all scared of taking responsibility for allowing a Nazi to gain power when you decided to not vote

I voted for Kamala but I still blame the DNC

the issue is two fold

a) they played games with democracy, further accelerating the erosion of whatever little faith remains in our democracy institutions. there should have been a primary, not the underhanded switcharoo we got to witness where for the first time in US history since primaries were a thing.. we had a presidential candidate nominated without a single vote

b) while voters are struggling and going through a period of profound insecurity - not only financially but in a very real social sense - they offer more of the same. neoliberal status quo. people are desperate for change and the DNC offers them nothing.

you blame the voters but you do not want to put an ounce of blame on the party that would rather lose an election than offer meaningful change

[–] brianary@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you blame the voters but you do not want to put an ounce of blame on the party that would rather lose an election than offer meaningful change

Uh…

the DNC is out of touch with voters.

What is this, if not shared blame?

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i guess the implication is that he puts more blame on the voters, as that is what his comments are mainly focused on.

me personally I don't blame the voters at all. just like I don't blame the German public for voting in the Nazis.

humans are stupid herd animals who will elect strongmen when they feel weak and scared.

i believe you can only put blame on people that have autonomy. and the only people with any real autonomy in this country are the elites, which have stuck their fingers in their ears and their heads in the sand for far too long.

the pressure pot is cooking and I think it's too late to stop it. maybe if we were a little less greedy over the last few decades and a little less focused on the short term, we could have skipped this resurgence of fascism that we're about to live through

but politicians only care about the next election and corporations only care about the next quarter. we are a short term society and have sacrificed the long term health of our country

[–] brianary@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

Interesting. That's an angle I'll have to consider. It seems like democracy with fixed terms and term limits has a similar problem to capitalism: myopia.

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