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Google's AI-driven Search Generative Experience have been generating results that are downright weird and evil, ie slavery's positives.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I wish it did die out in the 19th century. We have more slaves now than ever.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

There being more slaves now then ever is heavily disputed. There is also the fact that was little more than a billion people in the world when the trans-Atlantic slave trade stopped, so there would have to be 8 times as many for slavery to be as prevalent.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, I agree, our per capita slave figure has to be much lower these days, mathematically speaking.

Even one slave is a slave too many, and knowing there are still so many (whatever figure we put it at) is heartbreaking.

Things like the cocoa plantation slaves and the slave fishing ships have people kidnapped and forced to work for nothing. Actual slavery by any definition.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Of course, when I said it died out I didn't mean slavery was entirely gone and doesn't exist at all. I mean it died out as a prevalent societal structure.

100s of people in slavery on a cocoa plantation is of course awful, but it shouldn't obscure the fact that there used to be vast swathes of land where slaves outnumbered free people and their children were born into bondage - that is what has died out.

[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand your wider point and I agree with it.

But I think the point I was making actually supposts what you were saying upthread.

The agrarian model of the cocoa industry is economically reliant on slavery. 2.1 million children labour on those plantations in Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire, and a significant number have been trafficked or forced.

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