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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 161 points 5 days ago (117 children)

I’ve read that blockchain itself is a good technology. NFTs are a laughably absurd attempt to exploit that technology for profit.

Xitter op needs to shut up.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 51 points 5 days ago (53 children)

What problem does blockchain solve?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 25 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Apparently, it can be very secure. If “pieces” of a secure key are stored in multiple places, for example, only changing one link in the “chain” means it won’t match with the others. They ALL have to be changed at the same time, which is virtually impossible to do in secret.

Please note that I am far from an expert on the subject. I’m paraphrasing an article I read months ago.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Can’t you takeover a blockchain by owning the majority of a block chain, or by having a majority of the processing power to compute hashes?

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes which is part of why the major chains are owned and controlled by companies, but then that makes the whole thing pointless. IMO, a company controlled blockchain may as well just be a DB cluster, it would be faster and more efficient.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago

Are you saying that they “solve” that by never giving up more than 49% stake?

That… seems like a bad solution

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

Those things sound possible, but I’m not knowledgeable enough to speculate. Sorry.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If you had 51% of the world's computing power (to blockchains using proof of work) yes you could forge records, from what I could wrap my head around about blockchains.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You don't need 51% of the world's power though, just 51% of the power of people who care about how the system works. Most people using block chain cryptos don't care at all, so the threshold is a tiny percentage of the user base.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah you're right. I was thinking specifically Bitcoin and the astronomical amount of compute power that's behind it.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That’s proof of work. Proof of stake is you just need more than everyone else, right?

[–] ConnecticutKen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It works more like loaning money and then receiving interest, except you are loaning crypto to the network and then you get it back, plus some, after a certain period of time

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Is the network not considered a third party

[–] ConnecticutKen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This would just create a fork in the blockchain where 51% of the network doesn't match the correct state of the blockchain that the 49% have. The 49% would effectively stop working because they could never validate the transactions that the 51% takeover has falsely created. The node operators of the 49% of the network would need to reach consensus for how to deal with the problem, but essentially they would just adopt code that ignores the 51% data, so they could continue to process blocks of transactions. Without manual intervention the 49% would be frozen. The 51% is just fake, they haven't really changed anything because every real node operator would know it's false data.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

What if the 51% have already completed the consensus process?

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