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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

FPTP requires us to vote for people in favor of FPTP.

Even the referendum efforts slammed into a brick wall this year

RCV failed in Missouri, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, and (likely) in Alaska. People don't like it as a system.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All the more reason to angle for approval voting instead. It's much easier to explain to folks - you just pick everyone you're OK with winning, and whoever gets the most votes wins. No spoiler effect since there's nothing to spoil, dead simple to explain to folks, no moving votes around or instant runoffs or any of that, fully inclusive of third parties and already supported by the voting machines you already have.

You only want Trump, just pick Trump. You want anyone outside the main parties, check every box except Harris and Trump. You want anyone but Trump, check every box but Trump. You just don't want candidate in Russia's pocket, check every box except Trump and Stein. Etc, etc.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Don't get me wrong. I like Approval Voting. But any time I try to explain the idea of "the most popular candidate winning", people get angry at the idea of populism.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Doesn’t help when the Democratic Party campaigns against more direct democracy tho. When the Republicans don’t want it, and the Democrats not only don’t counter-message, but instead join in on securing FPTP, it should be obvious who they’re actually looking out for.

It’s time to admit that the party leadership does not represent us, and either have a palace coup and kick them out, or make a new party.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Good point. Now I'm a different kind of worried. 💀