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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Every time America has changed for the best it's required bloodshed. The Revolution, the Civil War, labor rights, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights: All of them required people to be hurt and die before something changed.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate that this is true.

I fucking hate that after people have died and the weekend is won, or women can work, or slaves are free that the people who do steadfastly clung to the previous status quo now are suddenly enlightened and can see the advantages of those changes.

Why are people like this?

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Still too optimistic. The people that clung to the previous status quo didn't become enlightened. They stayed just as bigoted, but they died off over time.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Too bad the bloodshed never includes the politicians who helped make it harder to change. Maybe that's what needs to happen instead.

[–] Molten_Moron@lemmings.world 8 points 16 hours ago

When can we require that the wealthy elite be the ones who get hurt for change to happen?