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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 14 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I blame the voters and Harris. The Harris campaign was bad, but voters don't get to escape the responsibility of the result that the mathematical reality of the US electoral system bestows on them.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net -4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Don't say such ignorant things. That's not how elections work at all.

Voters don't have any agency except what the ballot affords them. They are virtually powerless as individuals. What you're blaming are agents with virtually no agency to change.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's how elections aren't supposed to work, but it is how they work in the US. If you don't vote in favour of one candidate, it works out to a half-vote for the other candidate. It's the inevitable reality of a two-party system, which sucks ass, but it's still there and voters are still responsible for how they choose to deal with it.

Not voting for Harris means realising a Trump victory. It's just how it works in the US, and no amount of principled ideas can ignore the mathematical reality of the US electoral system.

Also, I don't buy into the idea that voters are powerless sheeple. Organize, protest, strike, options a' plenty. But Americans are apathetic and don't care enough to realise actual change. And it's clearly possible, given the track record of several leading human rights activists in the US. But it is hard, and people don't even bother trying something if it looks hard.

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