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Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Trump doesn't care about the NATO. He thinks it's a big US-led charity organization that protects the weak, poor other countries who rally under the umbrella because murricah is just so superior and cool. I don't think he actively seeks to destroy it, but if his actions lead to its downfall, he would not be upset at all.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What the incoming president fails to understand is that the money that the US funnels towards NATO helps keep a lid on conflicts "over there", so they don't end up "over here", like WWII.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

What the president elect fails to understand is mainly how the world works if your daddy isn't able to give you a small loan of a million bucks.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah NATO is a force for American power. It gives us undue influence in the world. And also I can’t imagine wanting a powerful United States and not wanting a powerful nato. It’s a threat of overwhelming force so we can only spend money instead of American lives on stabilizing our interests and critical allies. It’s also a way to have MAD countries without nuclear proliferation, or allowing allies we don’t want to have nukes (Germany) to have them.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't. The U.S. is a big part of NATO, but NATO will live on without the U.S. the European Union has very much the same clauses - even the U.K. would still be part of that.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

IDK if we can throw out USA in case they work against us, maybe we will form a new alliance without them?
But maybe I should have written NATO as we used to know it will be dead.