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I just got this popup while playing New vegas. I don't even use chrome, i've switched to firefox. How can this be allowed? Also, this is Win10

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[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But thats the perspective on the business to business difference. To the end user, its the default regardless, as they didnt have a say in that transaction. It would be on the same bout on those who hate preinstalled codecs and applications, which law wise, led to the creation of Windows N editions.

Even in the linux space, people have differing opinions on preinstalled stuff, and goes deeper with hard line options like no propietary preinstalled stuff and only FOSS

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weren't we talking about companies being anti-competitive? So the competitor dynamics matter here. Also, I don't recall Firefox ever asking you to return to Google or returning to it unprompted if you change your search engine.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They matter between companies, but the pop up is an end user interaction, which also matters.

The topic is a anti conpany to company, and a milder consumer interaction event.

The situation between mozilla and google is pro conpany, but can be seen as more anti consumer as it has a default.

Treating the dealing between companies and consumers as one single entity is not a good way to look at it. By that logic, ISPs are good companies because they coordinate to not compete agaisnt each other when of course that is far from the case. Yes they do matter, but how the power ends up in the consumers end also matters.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see your point but the deal between Google and Mozilla doesn't prevent people from changing default search engines or even nags them to change back. Firefox even has multiple search engines integrated by default. The only thing that it does is make it so Google will be the preset. So, really, I don't see how the user is being harmed.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Couldnt you say the same thing about this situation, choice is given to you as two buttons with your approval.

The difference is, one asked for your approval at an annoying time, the other picked one for you by default, and you have to change it to something else after.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

One is not respecting the user who already made a deliberate decision to change from the default. To be fair, if this appears once it's not a big deal. But if they keep nagging, then it's disrespecting their users and their choices, to get an advantage over the competition.