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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So, Russia will stop attacking Ukraine since it has "no right".

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Russia attacked Ukraine because of threats to Russian national security. The "legal framework" or "rules based order" that allowed NATO countries to create those threats to Russia created the conditions under which Russia had two choices - follow the rules exactly and let their belligerent opponents (the North Atlantic empire) continue to build up the threat level, or break the rules and protect itself.

This is why for years the conversation around Russia has been a debate between people who say a security framework must guarantee security for all, on the one side, and on the other side, people who said we only need to guarantee our security and we can threaten the security of others and they can't do anything about it.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

If we are talking about "the rules" then UA, and as a proxy for the West, failing to implement Minsk II is the primary precursor to Russia invading.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's more that we won't be reading about full scale unprovoked attack on the US soil going forward.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We should really include "full scale colonial invasion" before every mention about USA getting their current territory.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago
[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

lol yeah what am I saying here, of course we will