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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 172 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

For those doing the maths at home:

An F35 who obligingly flies top-towards-you (not exactly something you can do, but hey, maybe they're turning) is all of 10m tall.

An AIM-120C can very comfortably hit a target at 100km.

At that range, the F-35 takes up 26 arcseconds, or 0.007 degrees. That's roughly about the size of this period, at a distance of 3 meters away.

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Good luck spotting that in a sky of roughly the same colour, full of other objects.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 78 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can place cameras anywhere, they don't need to be right next to what is being targeted. Nearer ranges will allow AI to misidentify at much higher rates than max standoff ranges of an AIM-120C.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

I don’t think you were getting enough credit for ‘misidentify’.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pffffffff

I can see that bright white dot against the dark mode background on my maximum brightness screen with ease! Therefore your argument is invalid!

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

with a big enough screen i bet an AI camera could see it too

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

"I said AI sir!"

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but what about the AI? Have you thought about the AI that would be running it, which never misses, and would totally be a useful existing thing? 😉

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

And if it isn't, just frankenstein another AI against it. The solution to lacking AI is more AI, obviously.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Just for reference: JWST has an optical resolution of 0.07 arcseconds. It’s a mirror 22 feet in diameter though, not something you’d put inside a missile guidance package.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

JWST operates in space, i.e. there is no atmosphere blurr to take into account.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I’m not suggesting we make a missile with JWST mounted on the front!

[–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well but I am!

Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up.

I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't...

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit. I just realised that the reason they're building the ELT is so they can mount it on a missile and shoot down an F-35 at some point.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago

Magnifying glass makes things bigger, checkmate! 🔍🔍

and then also dealing with the F-35 itself, even if you managed to lock on and target it, it will have anti-warfare capabilities you have to contend with.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, sure. But that doesn't matter if you point the AI at it with a really good zoom lens, though. And then you have a ton of them, pointed in an directions, like the compound eye of a fly. F35 spotted.