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[–] matthewtoad43@climatejustice.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

@immibis @sooper_dooper_roofer @mondoman712 In the UK, local councils pay for fixed speed cameras.

Central government confiscates the fines.

When this was introduced the vast majority of fixed speed cameras disappeared more or less overnight: Councils could not afford to run them without a revenue stream. Their budgets had been cut ~50% by that same government.

The government justifies this by saying "the war on the motorist is over".

But it's a funny kind of war. The fatalities are overwhelmingly caused by motorists.

[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 1 points 2 years ago (11 children)

@matthewtoad43 @sooper_dooper_roofer @mondoman712 I think the same thing still applies. Do you really want speed cameras to make profits? You don't want to go down that road.

[–] matthewtoad43@climatejustice.social 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

@immibis @sooper_dooper_roofer @mondoman712 Why not? Elected local governments should be able to fund the maintenance of fixed speed cameras out of the fines received.

They can't, which means, given enormous cuts in their budget largely the result of central government decisions, they could no longer afford to maintain speed cameras.

As a result, more motorists drive at unsafe speeds, and people die.

More speed cameras is a *GOOD* thing.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with enforcement paying for itself in this case.

[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 2 points 2 years ago

@matthewtoad43 @sooper_dooper_roofer @mondoman712 You know, they tried paying people to arrest people in the past, and it ended up with lots of false arrests and no accountability for them.

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