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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think “lack of clean water” combines both causes of death, for simplicity? I’m not really sure why you have such a problem with it.

Yes, I agree. Which is why I said it's impressive that there are no one dying from both lack of food & water in my first comment. It was your reply that says it's "lack of clean water" (instead of lack of clean water + lack of water). Which is a meaningless distinction that we seems to both agree now? Have you changed your mind on that one?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People dying of dehydration probably also die of malnutrition, like you said, but people dying from drinking unclean water are a distinct group that can't just be lumped together with starvation because that's a public sanitation and pollution problem rather than a resource problem. This statistic groups dehydration and waterborne illness and pollution and industrial poisoning together as one group, and then separates that with malnutrition as a completely separate group. You, for some reason, have a problem with that?

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that how the statistics in this poster work? Firstly, they used different source for lack of water and hunger. Which is already kind of asking for overlapping errors. Secondly, I check the "http://poverty.com" as it mentioned in the poster and the site doesn't even mention how it get the numbers. Actually it doesn't even mention that 8000000 number on that site. Are we supposed to take this seriously?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what you want to combine lack of water and food so much - general rule of thumb, you can survive 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food. They're just different problems.

Also, I think this is a pretty old image. I seem to remember it back during Occupy? So who even knows where the sources are or how to find them.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I don't. I just think the numbers in this image is way too fuzzy to be taken serious from the get-go. And that's why I commented on it like it's a bad joke, which it is.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It references The Black Book of Communism, which is similarly unserious. Makes sense.