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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (70 children)

After all, there's almost nothing that ChatGPT is actually useful for.

It's takes like this that just discredit the rest of the text.

You can dislike LLM AI for its environmental impact or questionable interpretation of fair use when it comes to intellectual property. But pretending it's actually useless just makes someone seem like they aren't dissimilar to a Drama YouTuber jumping in on whatever the latest on-trend thing to hate is.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

actually you know what? with all the motte and baileying, you can take a month off. bye!

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Petition to replace "motte and bailey" per the Batman clause with "lying like a dipshit".

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't this a case of 'the good bits are not original and the original bits are not good'. According to wikipedia it is from 2005.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

various forms of equivocation

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I don't see what useful information the motte and bailey lingo actually conveys that equivocation and deception and bait-and-switch didn't. And I distrust any turn of phrase popularized in the LessWrong-o-sphere. If they like it, what bad mental habits does it appeal to?

The original coiner appears to be in with the brain-freezing crowd. He's written about the game theory of "braving the woke mob" for a Tory rag.

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