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Hello, sh.itjust.works community. I am curious what you think about ClubsAll, and whether you think we should stay federated with them. A few other Lemmy instances have recently defederated so this seems like a timely topic for discussion.

In short, ClubsAll is an ActivityPub-compatible Reddit clone. The site currently has one-way federation with no attribution: ClubsAll pulls content from Lemmy and displays it as local ClubsAll content. For example, you can visit https://clubsall.com/c/196 and there is no indication that the content is from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/196.

Here are relevant posts with more information and context:

In the first post the ClubsAll founder commented that they plan to eventually have two-way federation, and to make the project open source. Whether those things actually happens is anyone's guess.

What do you think?

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We absolutely do care about community.

You can say that all you want, but actions speak louder than words.

Because we are not lemmy based, so our development takes time (plus my developer left, plus we were trying to move to sublinks which itself has federation issues). So federation for us is not a config setting.

You launched what you apparently considered to be your MVP, and it's a one-way leech of fediverse user content.

The fact that you were willing to launch without federation in place signals, at least to me, that you care far less about community participation than you do about the content the community produces.

Additionally, different admins feel different rules are fair, so it is hard for us to know how to be good community members.

Welcome to the fediverse, where every software stack works a little differently, and every server has its own rules.

I request a common set of rules, preferably based on traffic, so any newbie can get the breathing room to develop and participate. Does that sound fair?

You're asking for someone to give you a set of common rules across all instances? For unpaid users and/or volunteer admins to spend their time compiling this information just to provide it to you?

No, actually. To me that doesn't sound fair at all.