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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

While thats a gut reaction that many have but the issue is the "working class people " are the vast najoirty and are the enablers of these actions.

If you live in a democracy you are vicariously liable for the action of the people who represent you. Democracy is a lot of work and I posit that it is, needing many hours a week. This isnt an easily soluble problem as its taken many decades to get here. People are so unwilling to step outside the orthodoxy so politcans are as well. As Michel Barnier said abiit climate change , we know what to do, we just haven't figured out how to be re-eleted if we do.

On this, I side with insurers as they literaly can't insure then uninsurable under the current system but step outside of that, the insurance industry itself is a ponzi scheme, it's one mega disaster away from complete bankruptcy, perhaps Geico aside.

Like everything else we do, we'll tweak at the edges and never solve this. Solutions are untenable, for example you really need mass abandonment of places like Miami to "solve" it and that would take decades even if you undertook such a task seriously and we arent even at the level of discussing what needs doing let alone doing it.

We literally know Mimai etal will be unlivable in decades to come and yet... Its like having a tea party on a train track with no access to a train timetable, it can only end one way but exactly when is unknowable.