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Installed Steam on a new computer. Signed in. It sent a passcode to my GMail. I signed into GMail. It wanted me to 2FA because I hadn't signed into Google on that device. It sent a notification to my phone, which I never received. I had it resend the notification twice, still nothing. Tried again with my phone's offline passcodes. Neither worked. Tried the QR code/Bluetooth connection, and that finally did it.

At least I got through in the end, but fuck, it's annoying.

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 48 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Yeah I've been thinking this more and more. Losing a phone now means losing access to everything

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

Discord wanted my fucking phone number and since I use a free voip service it couldn't send it to that so I had to use my dad's phone. So fucking stupid and backwards. I've been using email for decades now and I've never been hacked, what was wrong with that, why you gotta enshittify everything so?

[–] edge@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

A phone number requirement is to stop people from making a bunch of accounts. Emails are free and unlimited, but phone numbers mostly cost money and like you said they have some way to know which numbers come from free voip services.

Of course phone numbers are also more closely linked to your private identity, as they usually have to be in your or someone close to you's name. So that makes data gathering easier and makes it easier for feds to snoop on your shit if they really wanted (Discord will comply ofc).

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

VoIP is not supported for 2FA by some institutions like banks because it may be less secure than a conventional phone line, since it is connected to the internet. In practice, I think SMS is insecure regardless whether it is over the internet or phone line, but in any case that is why VoIP is not fully supported.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

SMS is very unsecure but companies use it. I think that's what Discord uses on sign up, but they don't allow free numbers like Google Voice.

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