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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's not what I'm saying.

Im saying that a world should be explorable from within, by interacting with it. You don't learn about urban fantasy, historical fiction, call of cthullu by downloading the knowledge about it before you are born. You learned about them while you engaged with the world.

A newbie can be like a child, exploring a world that is new to them (and it is easy to have a role that comes up with a reason for this: Amnesia, Migrant from far away county, lived a very privileged live in a golden cage that limited expose to the outside, etc.).

Sure, there might be some explaining, as you brought up before, but that can happen from within the game, in character, giving the new player a chance go engage with a world that is as foraign to them as to the character they are playing. They should be able to learn about a complicated world as they go.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well that restricts the kinds of characters a person can play. What if you want to play an experienced politician? An old veteran of the dragon war? The former librarian of the wizard's university? A middle aged woman who spent her youth tending bars and serving drinks to adventurers and got sick of it and decided to go pick up a sword and explore a dungeon herself?

Not everyone wants to do the amnesia story. Some people want to play as experts.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, and in that case a different approach might be sensible. But honestly, I don't see how a newbie would want to play a complex character right from the get go. If they do, I'd propaly recommend a more Newby friendly world / round. I still stand by my point: A complex world doesn't by default speak against new players.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago

Some games are designed for you to play complex characters. Like Blades in the Dark. You're supposed to play a hardened criminal. Everyone's going to be new to the game at some point and need the ghostfence and the spirit lightning explained to them, and it's much more fun to play a character in that game who knows the world well.