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Probably best to avoid these new tech-car companies if all their CEOs are going to do is just shoot off bad takes. Says a lot about the company culture IMO ☹️
Just leave people to buy whatever they want to, and importantly, whatever they can afford.
As much as I like electric cars, it's not affordable or sustainable to splash 10k every 10 years on a new battery. If I buy a combustion engine vehicle, I don't need to replace the engine/[insert heavy and expensive component here] every decade or less, assuming good maintenance.
Teslas are very good at looking after their batteries, but those are expensive. Nissan Leafs (older models/2010s) are cheaper, but they have no active battery cooling system to thermally protect the batteries, so you'll probably be replacing those more frequently.
10k every 10 years vs ? a new car every 10 years?
For that cost, the owner is likely to just purchase a new car IMO.
There's probably going to be very little interest on the secondhand market for a BEV with most of it's range gone, and a battery replacement due. Most of these may end up being parted out and scrapped, rather than reused like older combustion engine cars are, despite the pollution they produce.
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Ideally, no car.
Realistically, any reliable older used compact car/sedan, that will cost you far less (just maintenance wise, not considering taxes, insurance, fuel etc, since maintenance would be the closest analog to the battery replacement labor and cost IMO) over the same period of time, and will likely keep on getting you from A to B for 10 years and more, with no gradual reduction in range inherent to a BEV, and no environmental issues trying to dispose of a massive lithium battery (unless a bulk grid energy storage firm buys it from you).
They're both rubbish options environmentally speaking IMO, but a used combustion vehicle is far cheaper to obtain and maintain for the end user, and can generally be kept running and sold onwards to others until it's totaled, without any of the many owners needing to worry about replacing a battery.