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[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But who is the responsible party here? Who first began spouting out rhetoric of annihilation towards a whole ethnic group? Zionists, go back to theodore herzel and the original middle eastern terrorist groups Haganah, palmach and lehi who were responsible for dozens of violent attacks and killed an estimated 6-8000 Palestinian jews, Christians and muslims as well as occupying British forces. In the years before the israeli occupation began These terrorist groups were then simultaneously condemned by the newly established israeli government while their military absorbed their leadership and members into their newly formed military apparatus. Im not saying hamas’s actions are any less awful, but international law does state that indigenous populations have a right to defend themselves by any means necessary and they are clearly defending themselves when you see the ratio of casualties was in the 20 to 1 range and that was before Israel used the 10-7-23 attack as pretense to unleash an all out annihilation of the Palestinian population in gaza and around other settler projects as well.

Israel bears responsibility here and ignoring this while saying “hamas is bad” and “do you condemn hamas” just shows a level of ignorance that is astoundingly absurd. When israel is clearly guilty of rhetoric and actions that are objectively worse but holding hamas to a standard that israel is free from being measured against. What planet are we on here?

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Small detail missing from your story is that Haganah itself was formed to defend against increasing attacks on jews

So if your only qualifier is "who first began", you might want to revisit that

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Lmao, get out of here with that revisionist history terrorist apologia. The haganah were violent racist far right ethno supremacist terrorist group.

Even the newly form government of israel was forced to condemn them while they also absorbed all their leaders and members into the newly formed idf.

With your logic the Taliban was also formed to defend against the evil genocidal communists. 🤣