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I'm glad they're trying to fight it, because if banks apps enforce "play integrity" I'm guessing that'll be a nail in the coffin for Graphene.
With the reviews however I don't think we'll be able to make much of an impact. Revolut already has 1 star from me, can't give it any fewer I'm afraid.
And I think so few people use Graphene that the banks can just ignore us.
I've been using GrapheneOS for a few years now and simply log into my bank via my web browser. Sure I can't depoit checks remotely but I don't understand why this is such a deal breaker for people
I don‘t know where you are from, but the EU requires banks to use 2FA for login even via a browser. This is commonly implemented via a banking app, where you grant permissions for login/payments. So it is a huge dealbraker when those apps are not working on GrapheneOs
And before anyone goes blaming the EU as it‘s fashionable right now: mandatory 2FA for banks is a good idea, this is entirely Googles and the banks fault.
Is the 2FA a ToTP? Here in the US it seems like most banks use SMS 2FA which is terrible. You say you can still use the 2FA on the web browser so that doesn't make sense to me why it's a deal breaker.
The second factor is the app on your phone. It‘s not Totp. When you log in somewhere or make a transaction it will send a notification to the app asking you to confirm.
When you open the bank account you get a letter with a code to register in the app, which authorizes it to receive the notification.
Gotcha. That's unfortunate
It's a big deal breaker when your bank is online only. Mobile deposit is the only way I can make a deposit.
Move banks, leave feedback why you left.
My bank removes features from the website and only makes them available through the app.
My plan if something like that happens to me is to get a normie Android with a removable battery (like the Samsung xcover pro) and only ever power it on if I need to use those apps. Granted, not everyone wears pants with 6 pockets.
Let's hold out hope that the banks or those who they get their libraries from will move towards officially supporting GOS or stopping with Play Integrity