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[–] atmur@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.

My current plan is:

VPN -> Mullvad

Mail -> Tuta

Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)

Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)

Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.

[–] hamsesh@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I just migrated all of my aliases to addy.io, but I was also fortunate in that all of my aliases were based on a domain that I own. It was a simple as exporting the alias list to a CSV, formatting it a little for addy.io, then importing it!

If all of your aliases are based off of simple login domains, then that’s gonna be a lot harder. You’ll have to change your email on all of your. If that’s the case, in the future, I would definitely recommend getting a second domain for generating these aliases so that migrating is the problem in the future!

As for addy.io, I honestly love the service. The Lite plan is plenty for my needs and only costs $12 a year. That and Bitwarden are a steal imo.

[–] atmur@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I was also fortunate in that all of my aliases were based on a domain that I own.

I'm in the same boat luckily, so maybe this won't be as bad as I'm expecting. I'll take a look at Addy.io as well, thanks for the recommendation!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

I was JUST about to take that plunge myself.

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is there a reason you're not planning on migrating both mail and calendar to Tuta?

[–] atmur@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Mostly because if I'm going to go through the trouble of maintaining a Nextcloud instance, I might as well use its calendar to maintain more control of my data. If Nextcloud gives me trouble down the line (as it tends to do in my experience) then I'll give Tuta's calendar a try.

I'm optimistic for Nextcloud though, the latest AIO docker versions seem solid.

[–] hamsesh@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I have a Nextcloud Instance that’s been pretty solid for me for a couple years, but I don’t use their all-in-one image so I can’t comment on that. I do use Radicale instead of Nextcloud’s calendar/contacts though and I removed basically all of the Nextcloud apps except the file sharing. Idk why. I just don’t like when everything is in one thing lol

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Great guide! I believe Tuta has the simple login functions.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

I looked into this because I'm considering switching to them, and it seems like they only support it for custom domains.