As Joseph Biden’s US presidency comes to an end, many on social media this week are saying that his legacy boils down to one thing: his active role in Israel’s fifteen-month war on Gaza, which has been widely defined as a "genocide" by human rights organisations, international bodies and scholars.
Biden’s last day as president, on 19 January, is also the first day of the planned Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal that was reportedly pushed to the finish line by the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump, though both Biden and Trump took credit for the deal.
This has raised more significant criticism of Biden’s role in Israel’s bombing campaign on Gaza, with the US providing $17.9bn in military aid since 7 October 2023 after the Hamas-led attacks on southern Israel and the subsequent war.
His unfaltering support for Israel led to the infamous nickname given by pro-Palestinians and social media users: "Genocide Joe".
i would be VERY upset with myself right now if i had voted for kamala harris on the pretext that the biden administration was the best option to stop the genocide as well as voting to protect lgbtqia from the likes of project 2025 since the public can now see the same tired excuse of an individual dissenter blocking everything recycled again for not enacting the equal rights amendment that could defend us against project 2025 and trump succeeded in stopping the genocide in a few days were biden couldn't in a year and half.
i know that these two facts fall on deaf ears for most democrats based on my interactions with them on lemmy; so i behooves us and the democrats who didn't overlook a genocide to figure out a way to get those who considered the genocide to be "no big deal" or simply "single issue voting" to be brought back to table.
we'll continue our descent into fascism without these people and i wish i know how we could bring them back to the table when they double down like republicans and refuse to admit that these two the reasons why they voted democrat was proven false in the last week or so.
Let's just consider them a lost cause, and not expect anything significantly good for economic, foreign or even cultural policy from these rabid dogs. The Democrats will only scold us, if not aid the Republicans with fucking us over.
Republicans are a lost cause, Democrats are a lost cause, pretty soon we're trying to win in a majority rule system with 1% of the vote.
Gonna need at least 3% and it's not going to be voting
Deep cut right there
I suppose so. The only thing they should be good for delaying policies, but considering how they're allowign the Overton window to move further right, in regards to economic, foreign, and even cultural policy, yeah, that's uncertain
they outnumber all of the leftists and democrat dissenters combined; they're needed if we want to stop fascism from getting worse.
mind you, not all of them, just enough to counter the republicans who have fully embraced facism.
I think the demographic to focus on are the people who are just falling out of liberal mainstream and who haven’t formed strong political opinions of their own. They’ve already come to realize that libs are gaslighting them, and that the system isn’t working on their interest because they see their standard of living collapsing while mainstream media keeps telling them they’re living in the best economy ever. Such people become open to new ideas and can be reasoned with. As the economic collapse continues to progress, the liberal mainstream will necessarily shrink as increasing numbers of people start becoming disillusioned with the system.
gotta stop the whole money in politcs thing first seeing that it fuels the fascism and then eliminate fptp/electoral college but democrats candidates seem uninterested in these prospects.
It feels unrealistic; but I think we have to remember that this system is unsustainable wo massive interventions from a welfare state; the dark money fueling the electoral system is also fueling the system's demise and we'll be here left to collect the pieces to rebuild.
They were the best option. The ceasefire only happened because Trump sold them the West Bank for $100m
https://m.jpost.com/international/article-837566
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/netanyahu-offers-deals-to-smotrich--ben-gvir-to-secure-cease
Adelson is trumps largest donor, and wants to annex the West Bank. Trump also appointed an ambassador that says the West Bank shouldn’t exist. This is all very public. They done it in the open. What reality are you living in?
Israel annexed far more of the west bank under the Biden administration. And Harris clearly promised to continue the genocide. AIPAC spent more on Harris than Trump.
The Trump administration actually broke with decades of U.S. policy by declaring that Israeli settlements in the West Bank were not inconsistent with international law, effectively endorsing Israeli claims to parts of the territory. Significantly reduced U.S. financial assistance to Palestinians, including ending funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moved its embassy there to undermine the Palestinians (Adelson spent $20m for this)
It's getting worse over time regardless of administration, and now they'll be cheering them on and telling them to hurry up Don Jr has hotels to build for all his deluded fans.
They didn't spend anything this election cycle, the spent more on the republicans last one. But it's like 1m. Vs Adelson giving trump 100M for the west bank EXPLICTLY. Jesus f how do you not realise how much worse that is.
I don't know how people aren't getting this.
Biden upheld that violation of international law.
Like I said AIPAC spent far more on dems.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-100-million
Did you read it? It doesn't really say what you're claiming. They spent that money to push the dems to the right. Support pro-israel candidates over progressive ones in smaller races. Literally trying to push the dems right in case they won and they couldn't just pay trump to do their bidding.
Harris had more funding than Trump.
Check who spent more money in their campaign.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/29/kamala-harris-israel-antisemitism-charges-00171500
The rest of the Israel lobby gladly funded Harris. AIPAC funded multiple smaller lobby groups which campaigned for Harris.
If you want a real fun one check who AIPAC bankrolled during the Republican primaries. Hint: Nikki Haley.
Harris has gotten 6.5m since 1990. Trump has gotten 101M. Adelson bought Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank
Harris received far far more than 6.5 million. Harris has been the darling of the AIPAC lobby since at least 2017 telling stories about how she planted trees for Israel as a child.. Kissing the AIPAC ring is how Harris achieved her position.
Meanwhile Trump randomly decided to dunk on Netanyahu a week ago
In the end the only thing that matters is results. For some reason Trump dedcided not to stop funding Ukraine but to stop Israel.
You talk pure shite
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S&t0-search=Harris
500k from AIPAC
https://jstreet.org/press-releases/j-street-raises-over-6-million-for-harris-walz-campaign-consolidating-status-as-largest-jewish-organizational-fundraiser-for-kamala-harris/
Yes that was the 6m I mentioned earlier.
Again, 6m+.5m < 101m
Were you somehow unaware that this was always the ultimate end goal from our ruling class?
No I was aware before he got elected because it was public knowledge and dumbfounded people could deny the reality that doing anything to avoid getting him in would be better for the Palestinians. Guess it’s not just the conservatives prone to these 1D psyops.
Whether it was trump or harris, it was always going to end up this way; the only difference is that there are more Palestinians left alive w trump in the office, apparently.
No. Wake the fuck up from this red MAGA delusion.
She didn’t donate 100m because Trump was better for the Palestinians, did she? His victory has put the complete erasure of Palestine in reach and you have eejits like you saying ‘he’s ending the genocide’ get a fucking grip man lol
If the ceasefire fails, then there's still a chance you'll be right; but if it holds, then you'll be definitely be wrong.
No. The ceasefire is going through because it’s a better deal for Israel. Trumps donor is literally a Zionist who pushed for this and made it part of the terms that caused the right wing factions to stop blocking it. This is what the extreme right of Israelis right wing govt wanted. They are celebrating your nativity.
There was no better deal for Israel than unlimited genocide.
ultimited genocide + cookies?
or maybe just free reign on the west bank, the option to restart in gaza at any time with free reign and US backing, and whatever they didn't announce publicly. Genocide itself won't stop.
Never stop to consider you might be the victim of zionist propaganda after you cheered when the fascist got in?
Never stop to consider you might be the victim of zionist propaganda after you cheered for the people who perpetrated a genocide.
I never cheered, and we're not cheering in harmony now so I think I'm good.
The fuck you didn't. In fact you rabidly criticized those not cheering.
That ain’t cheering. Just a hefty dose of reality from an antifascist.
You are a fascist. You voted for a genocide. Keep your self flattering lies in your diseased head.
I am not American. I am an anarchist and have never voted. I would’ve to have kept the actual fascist out.
Your cope is pathetic. As deluded as maga. I have dubbed thee red maga. Fell for the psyops. Sad.
Fucking incoherent liberal fascist anarkiddy. But I repeat myself. I believe the latest narrative? That acknowledges Gaza as being a genocide.
You're a dumb motherfucker.
You believed the latest propaganda that convinced you to let the worse option in, aye.
So far Trump is objectively better than Biden on the weight of the ceasefire deal alone.
You would have the genocide continue. You deserve what the nazis deserve.
Afraid not chump
Adelson paid $20 million in exchange for moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem last cycle. His window, a megadonor for settlement development in the West Bank donated 100m to Trump with her stated goals being Israeli annexation of the West Bank and a U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty in all the regions of the land. Trumps #1 donor above Musk.
This was part of the deal that stopped the right wing factions in the Israeli govt from blocking the ceasefire. Are they the worse of two evils? Or is the fact that you're aligned with them escaping you?
What the fuck are you talking about you absolute fucking dipshit? YOU SUPPORTED A GENOCIDE. You want to talk to me about fucking campaign donations? Moving an embassy??
YOU COMMITTED THE WORST CRIME IN THE HUMAN IMAGINATION. GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH THIS PETTY SHIT.
The absolute worst thing you can possibly say about they other side is they'll PROBABLY be ONLY EQUALLY EVIL AS YOU.
FUCK you
Ah I see, you are insane.
I advocated for objectively the better option for Palestine.
Was it the one who secured a cease fire?