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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry if I don't think minor topics are worthy of the immediate attention needed for a phone call?

Phone calls are reserved for emergencies. Otherwise you're just demanding the instant attention of someone for nothing.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not demanding, asking. Declining a call is always an option.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

I like to compare calling to someone knocking on your door incessantly for several seconds.

You can ignore it or decline to answer. It's still annoying af.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So why call in the first place? And how will I ever know what the call was about? Unless you text, of course, so why not just do that in the first place?

You may not intent for it to be a demand, but unless you have your phone on silent, it will keep ringing and making noise until you do something about it. It demands an action, and tries to get your attention as much as possible.

Which is why it's designated to emergencies. This makes calling more useful as well, because now you know calls are more important, and can actually treat them with more urgency. Otherwise you're just gonna end up ignoring what may be an actual emergency, because you treat every phone call the same.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Gen X here, only had a smartphone 5 years as before I was avoiding it. Typing is painful. Just answer the phone and we'll get that query sorted in less time than I would take to type the initial question. Don't be a big baby about it.

Millennial here and totally agree. There are times I don't feel like talking and I simply don't answer. How hard is it to answer normally though? If it's not during work hours... If I'm busy I just call back. No idea why this is a weird awkward thing for so many

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you know, as with most things, typing on a phone is a skill that improves with use. Get with the times, don't be a big baby about it

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is humanity like this? Can we just agree that different people like to do different things?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Fair, I got a little triggered lol

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it was not important enough to type it out, you can tell me next time we meet. I'll stop answering your call after the second nonsense call you make.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a sense of entitlement. You're not royalty.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nor are you entitled to anyone else's time or attention.

I never said if someone doesn't answer they're an asshole. Unlike what you're saying about incoming phone calls.

[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate typing too but having to answer a phone call triggers PTSD. NOPE.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

If it's genuine PTSD then you have my every sympathy and I hope that you can get some peace from it.

Nobody I'm calling have anything worse than lazyitis.

[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a psychological problem. You in therapy I hope?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on why you think this is a psychological problem?

[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I could but I honestly don't want to, it would take time and be a long post. If you really are in therapy you can talk with your therapist about the issue. But so I won't let you go empty handed the simplest point: it's a phone, it's there to primarily make calls. Yes, in the last decade it finally got access to the internet; something I wished for for at least 20 years, but nevertheless, it's a phone. It exists to make phone calls. If that's really a big problem for you it's not the phones problem, it's not the caller's problem, it's your problem.

[–] cubedsteaks 2 points 1 year ago

lol exactly why my phone is on silent

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When you decline a call you don't know what it's about. The only thing I can think of when I family member calls and I decline a call is that they needed desperate help/were in an emergency and I just hung up on them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except the problem is I don't know what the call is about so you're asking me to make a except/declined decision with no information.

If you send a text message I have the information.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't know what text is about without opening it eather. Precognition is not a common trait.

[–] PaulAtreides@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Best kind of disagreement!

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

And yet I can look at it on my own time when I'm not busy with other things

[–] _Lory98_@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Notifications have a preview of the message tho.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have received many scary cryptic texts which the phone calls version would've involved, at worst, 5 seconds of confusion. With the cryptic texts I often have to wait hours to understand. The problem with texting is that people use it even when it's wildly inappropriate to and they don't seem to understand that.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like it's sort of simple minded to make rules for oneself like people in this thread seem to have done. Context is key.

Am I excited to answer a call from my landlord? Absolutely not, but I'd rather do that and talk for 5 minutes than text for a couple hours about when the repairman is coming or whatever. Calls can be much more convenient than these people with their rules seem to know...

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would it take hours for a landlord to tell you a repair man is coming at x date/time

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because texting is a particularly shitty way to communicate with people who aren't good at it. Which is 99% of the world. Why be intentionally obtuse? If you've ever texted more than 3 people you absolutely know what I'm talking about.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've texted and exclusively used text-based chat programs almost exclusively for over a decade, yes it's a skill that needs to be practiced to become better at, but it's not like it's impossible.

For work for instance, I have had people be like, "can I just call you because it'd be easier to explain," no sorry I'm busy, they then write out like two sentences and I can answer in one. Nah fam, it's not that hard to just put your thoughts or question in text.

The biggest issue I see is tone is hard to control in text if you're just very terse with your writing style, but people have that issue with talking too sometimes lol

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

But then you are already reading it, and getting partial informarion at that. Worst of both worlds.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The horror. Just let it ring.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -3 points 1 year ago

Your time really is not that valuable. No one's is.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Phone calls aren't reserved for anything. They're just phone calls. I'm a huge introvert but it's like in one particular way millions of people decided to try and be the most annoying introvert possible