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Thoughts on Trump apologia emanating from Hexbear (ponder.cat)

submitted 4 days ago by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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I've come to two realizations recently:

One

The sudden tankie willingness to believe that Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza, and got tough with the Israelis and then they capitulated which Biden could have done at any time, sheds some interesting light on how the tankies think. They accuse anyone who disagrees with them of shifting their realities around, such that anything Biden does is good, anything the State Department says is always true, even if it contradicts itself or basic common sense or reality. I always thought that this was just a lazy reality-free arguing tactic, but in retrospect, I should have realized that it's a tell about their own thought process. Just like it's a warning sign if someone constantly suspects their partner of cheating, or is constantly on an absurdly hypervigilant lookout for scams and people trying to cheat them out of money, this is a key revelation about the way Hexbear itself looks at reality.

Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden. The cart is firmly in its place in front, and everything else including the horse can follow along depending on what the cart dictates.

Two

Hexbear's censorship, and wild hostility to anyone who comes to "their" place and tries not to toe the party line, really does do a pretty effective job of distorting the view of reality and consensus that their users are able to experience.

Take a look at these and compare:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36382877

https://hexbear.net/post/4354590

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Saying shit no one has ever heard of like “horseshoe theory” and trying to make the regular people who never heard of it out to be stupid or abnormal is exactly what outs you as a Russian bot.

Check this guy’s post history. It’s pretty clear which team he plays for.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not a russian bot lol

touch grass. there ain't no bots on lemmy.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 hours ago

Every one of the things you just said out you. lol

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The majority of people on leftist spaces know what horseshoe theory is.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 days ago

You mean obscure ATP group missions.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Tons of people have heard of horseshoe theory which is the notion that the extremes of the political binary have an overlap and that a fascist and an authoritarian communist are not all that different. It’s a bullshit creation from the mind of a journalist and IRL does not seem to be true.