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A good dissection of bullshit "science" about vaccines - this dissection also highlights good general points to think about when applying critical thinking to any such out of left field "scientific" claims on the internet or those blathering dolts on TV news segments.

https://theunbiasedscipod.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-failure-why-this-latest

Dig into things before promoting them on social media.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Where is your evidence that autism is a disease? Because that's the sort of shit Autism Speaks says.

Why do you even thing autistic people want to be "cured?"

[–] lukewarm_ozone -2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

A "disease" is a condition that affects one adversely. Some people with the autism diagnosis are not obviously affected adversely and do not consider themselves to be (and I am not suggesting that they are wrong), but most are. The worse-off autism cases look more like "constantly keeps trying to self-harm to deal with distress caused by crippling sensory issues; needs to be institutionalized". I think not very controversial to say that those people are affected adversely and would want to not have those problems.

I think when you see me talking about autism, you think only of the first group of people - and I agree that if that's what all autism was like, it'd be strange to consider it a disease (and I also agree with what you said earlier, that in the context of anti-vaxxing, a lot of weird parents seem to unjustifiedly think the mild autism of their children is as bad as death). But it's not, and hence it causes quite a lot of suffering and it'd be morally right to find a way to prevent children from getting it.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A "disease" is a condition that affects one adversely.

Your definition of disease is patently false.

an) illness of people, animals, plants, etc., caused by infection or a failure of health rather than by an accident.

If vaccines were the cause, which they are not, then it still couldn't be called a disease. It is not infectious, nor communicable, nor spreadable by any means other than genetic mutations presenting during fetal formulation.

**Autism is not a disease. **

[–] lukewarm_ozone 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. The definition I mentioned is from wikipedia, I didn't just make it up.
  2. Your argument doesn't actually follow - your definition mentions "failure of health", which is so vague as to cover anything, yet for some reason you argue that it matters that it's not infectious. Hereditary diseases are called that despite not being infectious, so clearly it's not as clear-cut as this.
  3. But actually, fair enough - I don't think it matters whether something "is a disease", so I shouldn't have mentioned it - my argument doesn't rely on it in any way.
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wikipedia is not a fully reliable source. It's a great collection of knowledge but it's not authoritative. You shouldn't rely on it for everything.

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