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[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If a pigeon is keeping the egg warm and there is a crack from the inside, he/she will also start to crack the egg from the outside to help the little squab.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That should be the exact strategy, let the movement build internally and support it once it establishes itself legitimately.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"let the movement build internally" A more appropriate description in using the egg scenario is, "the pigeons were eaten by a fox a long time ago and the eggs are left to rot or get eaten by rats." lol.

As it is, we can't nurture ourselves when there's nothing to guide us. There's a bunch of rats sitting at the top of this nest and the second one of those " eggs" so much as shakes it's over.

The literal best we can hope for is just to survive long enough for the US to balkanize and/or get destabilized/destroyed by outside forces.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be so pessimistic, the scenario in the US today isn't fundamentally different from other eras. If class consciousness could take root in tsarist Russia, there's no reason why it can't happen in the current environment in the US. There is also a history of a strong labor movement that organized during the great depression, and it wasn't even that long ago. The material conditions will be the driver for a movement forming the same way they always do. I also think it's worth looking at MAS in Bolivia as a great recent example of this happening.