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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The CIA has toppled democracies around the world. So its bullshit to say the president has his hands tied...

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If a leader utilizes the intelligence agencies to put down opposition politicians then they are an authoritarian dictator. Biden isn’t that stupid.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Be careful when you fight monsters. Biden was fucked either way if I'm being honest, I'd even bet a handful of cash that a prominent Dem, perhaps even Biden, gets merked within two years.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Youre right. Should just let a traitor waltz in and be the authoritarian dictator. We'll just put Biden in the history book beside Hindenburg.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So your solution to prevent an authoritarian dictatorship is for Biden to become an authoritarian dictator?

Te courts are the check against this.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The same courts that gave immunity to the president for "official acts"?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes the same courts that did that. POTUS shouldn’t be preventing the opposition from running candidates.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Being a poltical opposition shouldnt be a shield from consequences. Anyone else, he would have been labeled a terrorist and sent off to gitmo. But i guess US has always been a veil democracy anyway, so im not really suprised once the remaining illusions eroded away.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It isn’t a shield from consequences. The courts and DOJ were prosecuting him.

There is NO situation where elected officials should be deciding who can oppose them in a democratic electoral system.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Badly but that doesn’t change that Biden shouldn’t interfere.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Why not? He could make the executive decision to stop the madness and force their hands to actually put forth a trial. He could done it and immediately resigned and let the system decide if his actions were justified. I understand its really not a great thing to undermine democracy... but if he truely believe democracy was already being undermined, then an exetreme act with benevolent intention should be allowed so as long those actions are proven justifiably.