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[–] Reptorian@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

My crazy take is that there needs to be a interpretative language alternative to Python which uses brackets to define scope and/or things like elif/else/fi/endif/done. Much easier that way in my opinion, and the ";" shouldn't be necessary. I'm used to Python, but if I had another language which can be used to serve similar purpose to Python with those features, I would never code in Python again when it comes up.

Having to code in Julia and G'MIC (Domain-Specific Interpretative language that is arguably the most flexible for raster graphics content creation and editing), they're the closest to there, but they're more suitable for their respective domain than generic ones.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Have you heard the good news about our lord and savior Ruby?

[–] buh@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ruby does that (well you use the keyword "end" instead of a bracket) but it fell out of favor before it got as big as python, to my knowledge, because of worse multithreaded performance in comparison (which I think has been fixed) and a bias towards unix systems over windows

[–] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like it got... Railroaded.

[–] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me the big issue with Ruby—which admittedly has many fine features I would like to see in other languages—is the lack of a general standard for its operations. There are so many ways to get the same basic logic loop done, it feels like a recipe for either unfollowable code or chaos in programming teams.

[–] unpoetical@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

So it is a real perl replacement.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are so many ways to get the same basic logic loop done

This also applies to C.

[–] ImpossibleRubiksCube@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Allow me to clarify.

C has for, while, and do-while. That's it.

Ruby has for, while, do-while, until, rescue, inlined conditionals, optionals, and iterators, for what amounts to the same task; not to mention exceptions (something the C standard has repeated swerved away from, wisely) and lambdas.

I'm not saying that there isn't a time for Ruby, but if you think C falls into the same category then we're very much in disagreement.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

C has for, while, do-while, goto and recursion.

How exactly are rescue, inlined conditionals and optionals used for creating loops? Also Ruby's for and while do different things, unlike for and while in C.

[–] LIE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Sounds like Bython is the language for you! (only half-joking)

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mrkite@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's something weird. I haven't written a ruby program in 15 years, but I still use irb as my calculator.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I love that :) Try Pry, too!

Props and big up for the G'MIC shoutout. That thing is a BEAST.