this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2025
1164 points (97.9% liked)

linuxmemes

22371 readers
1358 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Language/язык/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • Β 

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS
     
    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Despite your valid counterpoints, those are all still hurdles that will drive away general adoption, especially when there are people surviving digitally entirely off of a smart phone and tablet. We see similar complaints from people about simply picking a lemmy instance. How can we expect them to navigate the more complex landscape of distros?

    I don't mind it, it's not a big hurdle for me, but it is undeniably a hurdle for the average person. They aren't tech literate.


    I also can't remember the last time I had to use cmd or PowerShell to troubleshoot or configure stuff on my home Windows box (my primary desktop still). When I first customized the install media, and when I configured it post install. I was tearing out core components like Cortana search, and preinstalling updates to the iso. Not anything critical to actual usability.

    The key settings are almost all available through the UI. All of the ads that make headlines are controlled by a single switch in the settings menu, which hasn't been reset by updates like people keep saying it does.

    You really only have to get into the guts for stuff like disabling web search, killing preinstalled apps, and the like.


    I automate shit through PowerShell for a living (effectively). Cmd and PoSh are good for automating stuff, working on batches of stuff at once, and for interacting with certain stuff in Azure that you usually would never touch.

    Oh no, I can't interact with deleted mailboxes that are aging off behind the scenes without using PowerShell! That's totally the same as Linux's reliance on the terminal.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    Back when I used Windows I didn't use the command line much but did end up in the registry editor relatively frequently (after things broke or I needed to get things and the updates broke things (mouse stopped working, sudden performance drops, undid settings) every couple of updates culminating in Windows breaking its own bootloader and taking grub with it.

    I personally found the registry editor really annoying to use and adding enties was quite difficult. I find editing the appropriate file a lot nicer.

    Also as far as Linux updates go they have never broken my bootloader or made my system unbootable. Though my graphics drivers did stop working with the LTS kernel and I needed to select the default one again to update my grub config (an issue I would not have had if I had started with the default kernel).

    So based on my experience Linux has been more stable and actually runs more programs that I like. The only thing I miss is Rufus which was my favourite ISO burner for USB sticks.