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I got a tough one for you. Are dialectics eternal? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml to c/philosophy@lemmygrad.ml

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Rephrased, will dialectics always exist?

Have fun, because I sure don't.

edit: if it helps your thinking process a bit, consider this:

Dialectics explains the process of contradictions. So, does dialectics go through its own contradictions?
If so, that means dialectics has a process of its own and describes its own process as well. It's a bit like the "does a set of all sets contain itself" question.
But if the laws of dialectics are eternal and dialectics does not go through its own process and contradictions, then it would be eternal. Is that possible though?
And finally of course what are the implications of all of that?

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hegel was certainly the father of modern dialectics, but he was also an idealist and I see his idealism in your response. It was thanks to Marx that we put dialectics back right side up so to speak with materialism.

I think you're taking more of a language analysis. Why is the apple called apple and not something else, ultimately. But the apple, by any name, exists objectively. It exists as the result of a process of contradictions, like everything else. An apple has many objective properties, which idealists deny to make the claim that indeed, matter (or things) don't exist outside of our mind. But an apple has a color (which can be objectively measured), a certain height, weight, size, a certain process by which it comes about that makes it an apple and not an ear of corn or a peach, etc. And this process will continue whether we have a word for it and whether we witness it.