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[-] mothersprotege@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

Regardless of how many despots find Putin's approach appealing, it remains fundamentally wrong.

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

Who said anything about despots? These are opinions of people, not rulers. Citizens of Africa, Asia, South America have suffered under US hegemony, so they view the Russian State different than you do.

The world isn't as simple as Russia bad, US good.

[-] mothersprotege@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

O rly? Because I thought things were simple. I, like everyone who isn't already fully on team hexbear, am an idiot. Please cite your sources.

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

Weird how they ask for sources then never respond. Almost as if they're just arguing in bad faith and trying to waste time.

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

It may take them sometime to digest, especially if they had a marvel movie USA good Russia/China bad worldview.

Hopefully they grow from the knowledge.

[-] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Have you even read these?

Just one example:

Nearly half (46%) globally said that the European Union, United States and Nato were doing too little to assist Ukraine, while 11% said they are doing too much

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

Yet among the 6.3 billion who live in the world’s remaining 136 countries, the opposite is the case – with 70% of people feeling positively towards China and 66% towards Russia.

Or in other words, the majority of the world supports Russia.

As your quote shows the article you're citing from doesn't only look at peoples' views of the war in Ukraine, but shows a big divide between progressive and conservative nations. Eg. the majority in SE Asia, the Middle East and Africa doesn't care as much for Putin invading Ukraine as they do for him stomping on the gays and progressives.

Sadly, conservatives outnumber progressives globally.

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

American cultural conflicts are not world politics. This has nothing to do with "the gays" or progressives (meaning less term).

Cuba is against NATO expansion. If you think it's because Cuba allegedly hates gays you need to study both history and recent events before forming political opinions.

You should really read the article you cited from then. There's no need to restrict your scope to the US or Cuba, unless you are being disingenious

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

It holds true for every country. African countries support Russia for material reasons, same as SE Asia and the middle east.

But I'm done. You are a racist debate pervert who has no interest in the truth. I hope one day you view all citizens of the world as full people.

"Read your own sources plz" - > "racist debate pervert!" this is fantastic

[-] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sure, for what it's worth I could concede that a global majority might approve of support for Ukraine according to this data. Looking at raw data from: https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/dpi-2023/

That figure may not be accurate however, especially because I can't see that they computed a weighted global total by population. They extrapolate to obtain each "nationally representative result" by taking into account the respondents' age, gender and education to mitigate selection bias. I have my doubts about extrapolating like that, but okay. The main problem is when you check the global total, it's just an unweighted average of all nations. Highlighted in orange: Top - unweighted average of all nations, Bottom - reported figure from the author

Each country has ~1000 respondents, so there isn't a proportional representation of each country based on its population - small countries (mostly imperial core, as it happens) have an outsized effect on the average.

But why post it when you think it's a shit paper

[-] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nearly half (46%) globally said that the European Union, United States and Nato were doing too little to assist Ukraine, while 11% said they are doing too much

I do think the paper is flawed but not useless. I wasn't really the one who posted it though, it's the primary source for this claim in the other article.

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