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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No.

This is malfeasance etched into paper. The intent was by people who wished us harm.

Imagine if you started quoting a leader of the KKK because even though hes a hateful violent asshole maybe some cherrypicked quotes seemed innocent. Do you think you would be well recieved?

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Brother, capitalists are using the power that capitalism gave them to destroy the planet, public institutions, and democracy around the global and you are still repeating the pro-capitalist / anti-communist Nazi lies from 80 years ago???

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But that isn't the same thing at all. These are not Stalin's words.

If you buy into the McCarthyism "Red Scare" nonsense, then fine, but remember that the only lives McCarthy ruined were those of Americans, and with one possible exception*, all of whom were innocent of any actual wrongdoing.

*Alger Hiss maintained his innocence to his death, and the evidence against him is dubious at best.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the historical consensus is that Julius Rosenberg was likely involved if not Ethel.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, you're right, I stand corrected. Although I don't know how much that had to do with McCarthy himself or the Un-American Activities Committee - it was an FBI investigation trail that had already begun before McCarthy kicked off with all his nonsense.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think without the hysteria, it wouldn’t have been death penalty and they wouldn’t have got Ethel. I should be citing sources but from what I remember all of the stuff Julius got to the Soviets was minor/stuff they already knew.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

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