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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Currently there are 3 browsers available and one of them is only available on overpriced disposable hardware.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

Actually WebKit is often used in the same role Gecko would be used, until Mozilla decided they don't want alternative browsers on Gecko.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

Which are? Please list a few current ones that have reasonable backing and at least a mid-size community.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here are two on Linux:

  • GNOME Web (was called Epiphany)
  • Konquerer - KDE

Those are the two biggest desktops on Linux. In fact, when I run Tauri (like Electron, but uses your system webview instead of bundling it), it uses GNOME Web on my system.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They still exist? I was under the impression that they are abandoned.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They absolutely do. A lot of distros package Firefox or Chromium or something as the default, but those browsers are default for their respective DEs.

Here are their most recent releases:

  • Konquerer - 24.12.2 2025-02-06
  • GNOME Web - 47.3.1 (Jan 2025)

They don't move very fast, but they don't need to since they just pull in upstream changes. Their main purpose is to provide a default webview and browser, but most people use a different browser for everyday use.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Konqueror is more or less dead as a browser. I don't even think kwebkitpart is maintained anymore since QtWebkit was abandoned with Qt6.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It had a release this month, that doesn't sound dead...

But yeah, it's unfortunate that Qt WebEngine is Chromium based. I get it though, it's probably less work to maintain and if users complain, you tell them it's the most popular embedded engine.

kwebkitpart

Maybe you're right though, the last commit on master seems to be 2 months ago. I wonder if it's officially dead or just maintenance only.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you look at the kwebkitpart commits, it looks like it's been nothing but localization for years.

That's really too bad.

We lost this war with operating systems when Linux ate the BSDs' lunch, and it's happening again with browsers. I hope GNOME Web sticks around.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I wasn't thinking of such and meant vimb or surf.