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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't like this but it's gonna take more for me to switch. I am very happy with Firefox for my use-case and workflow it works really well. However I think they are shooting themselves in the foot by starting to take away some of the most crucial advantages with Firefox compared to Chrome. I mean if both are awful for privacy then why use Firefox?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mind you, this is just step one and other steps WILL follow. Mozilla looked at other enshittified products from large companies that make a lot of money and thought "we could have that too!"

It's a pattern I keep seeing, over and over. This is the end of Firefox as we knew it. I'm sure a good fork, run by a non profit foundation will sprout soon enough, but the name for a privacy browser won't be Firefox no more

Maybe. I'll certainly check out alternatives, but I'm not panicking just yet. It's not hard to switch browsers, so I'll just test out options while seeing how things shake out.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what they say about being commercially viable is true, they can't die on this hill. It means death of complete privacy either way.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mozilla are a non profit organisation. Their recent blog post says that they will invest in advertising to increase short-term revenue that they need to "grow". The blog goes on to talk about the increase in board members, and new leaders being added. The CEO and these new leaders are highly paid...

To me this looks bad. It looks to me that Mozilla's new leaders have pushed out the old; and are now moving towards advertising and selling user data not because they need it to stabilise and survive, but because they need it to pay the people making the decision to burn trust and reputation. It has become a top-heavy organisation, and greed has seeped in.

A few people will be self-enriched by this, and then the orgasation will be weaker as a result.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 18 hours ago

Another decade and we'll be back inside libraries, let's stock up on epubs while we still have internet browsing.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're going to a Chromium browser, at least go to Vivaldi since it's a) based on Chromium not Chrome and b) not based in the US.

The only bad thing it has going for it is that it uses the Chrome web store for extensions.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 day ago

VIvaldi is cool, but its not open source. If you worry about the trustworthiness of you browser, picking an open source one would be best IMO. Among the chromium-based, there are chromium itself, brave, ...