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Something that I realized about the fediverse is that you seem to be able to criticize the USA as a whole, but if you criticize the Democrats you get downvoted. Democrats suck they are not sacred cows (lemmy.ml)

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[–] prex@aussie.zone -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said but a non-voter is a trump voter.
This is the reality you now face.
You do understand how the trolley problem - and your electoral system works?

[–] pogt@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very familiar with the trolley philosophical problem, thank you. But you're arguing the lesser of both evils point of view, again. Which is not an excuse anymore. With all due respect, but it's a horrible half-assed defeatist mentality that will never create any meaningful change. And yes, I'm very familiar with the electoral system, and the popular vote. Both of which clearly wanted Trump to win. Denying that this was what the majority of America wanted is delusional. What we should focus on is why on earth did the majority pick such a horrible president (Trump)? I'd love to see Democrats take on that self reflection and come up with better messaging and policies instead of acting like us independents owe them a vote....And no, "racism and sexism" ain't it either.

I'm reminded by this quote from my one of favorite authors (Hunter S Thompson) in 1972:

“How many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote FOR something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?” ― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72

We're in 2025. Neither Trump nor the Genocide-supporting DNC deserves to be in power. That's what a non-vote is.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

And yet one of them is.
I am not from Australia had have no say. You did - and yet you did nothing. I understand it is hard to support something you fundamentally disagree with but the lesser of two evils is still better (eg: no Palestine resorts).
No one will agree with you or me on every policy, we are being asked to choose.

BTW We have our own fascism problems here & donkey/informal voting is rife. Bad things absolutely could happen here.

Edit: I am from Australia

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

The troll problem isn't real

And that electoral system is rigged

[–] ubergeek 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A non vote is a non vote. A vote for "neither of these".

Abstinence is not a sexual position, either.

And you understand we need to stop the trolley, not vote for people holding down the throttle, right?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

Maybe there is a cultural difference because of our "compulsory" voting.
I'm sure there are plenty of aussies that would agree with you but I feel a bit like:

[–] pogt@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

Well said. Thank you.