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submitted 10 months ago by liori@lemm.ee to c/programming@programming.dev

I've said this previously, and I'll say it again: we're severely under-resourced. Not just XFS, the whole fsdevel community. As a developer and later a maintainer, I've learnt the hard way that there is a very large amount of non-coding work is necessary to build a good filesystem. There's enough not-really-coding work for several people. Instead, we lean hard on maintainers to do all that work. That might've worked acceptably for the first 20 years, but it doesn't now.

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Dave and I are both burned out. I'm not sure Dave ever got past the 2017 burnout that lead to his resignation. Remarkably, he's still around. Is this (extended burnout) where I want to be in 2024? 2030? Hell no.

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

What are the main issues in getting used to it do you think?

[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 23 points 10 months ago

The first thing I always hear from people trying out gnome for the first time is along the lines of "Where is the minimize and maximum buttons?" and depending on what programs they use "where is the icon tray" (app indicators, or the "system tray" on Windows).

Whenever I try to explain the devs' philosophies regarding those, they quickly have lost excitement so generally these days I just start people on KDE.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

The minimise and maximise buttons are in the same place they are on windows, to the left of the close button?

And by icon indicators, do you mean the dock? It's possible to pin that.

[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 11 points 10 months ago

Gnome by default does not have those buttons enabled. Their design vision is for you to not actually have to minimize a window, but rather if you need to focus on a specific window either maximize it (in which you double click the app's header or drag it to the top of the screen), or move that window to a different workspace. The options are technically still in Gnome, and can be enabled via either dconf editor, or through the Gnome Tweaks app - however, a few distros enable it out of box. If you use a distro that has a more vanilla Gnome experience, such as Fedora, this won't be the case.

By icon tray / app indicators, I mean apps that show some sort of status or shortcut in the bottom right area of Windows / KDE (or the top right of macOS). On my desktop right now, that would be Discord, JetBrains Toolbox, and KSnip (the last two are extension icons).

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

One of the major reasons I outright hate Gnome, they have strong opinions on how the users should want to use their computers. "You shouldn't want to minimize windows, so we disable the button to do that."

No thanks.

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Ugh, Gnome 3... I used to be all in on Gnome, then went to Mate after the Gnome Shell days. Last year I came full circle to KDE and for whatever reasons I had to dislike it in the past, KDE Plasma is a damn good environment these days.

Gnome used to be better for being simple and effective. Now you have to tweak it so much to get what you want, you might as well go with KDE.

Qt feels more dominant in the cross platform space these days too, with more new projects choosing Qt over GTK

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