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Is Tuta a good alternative to gmail? (slrpnk.net)

submitted 1 day ago by countrypunk@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I've been looking to switch from gmail to a different email provider that's more private. I've been hearing about Tuta, are there any drawbacks to it? Are there better options?

For a while I was planning on making the switch to protonmail but that's off the table now due to the recent events surrounding them.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From what I understand, Tuta may have a slight edge theoretically, but email itself is a pretty poor protocol when it comes to privacy.

Tuta was forced by court order to implement a message logger for an individual, but AFAIK all of their previous messages were encrypted and could not be read by Tuta, and therefore the Government could only see new unencrypted messages coming in before they were encrypted.

Disroot only recently implemented at-rest encryption, so that should be fairly solid now. Posteo also allows you to encrypt your inbox and calendar at rest.

Even with that, consider all private email providers as mostly just to avoid surveillance capitalism (to prevent your data from being mined and sold), but with only marginal protection from state agents.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

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Tuta was involved in a Canadian spy case, where in court it was alleged to be a front for an EU Intelligence Agency. Cameron Ortis was the counterintelligence spy on trial. https://gizmodo.com/tuta-email-denies-connection-to-intelligence-services-1851022465 and lots more if one does a search. I know I wouldn't use them, so you've been warned.

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[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ortis has claimed that some unnamed Five Eyes foreign agent introduced him to the honeypot operation and that he didn’t notify his superiors at the RCMP about it.

How can you trust an unnamed intelligence officer though? For all we know, they might have an actual honeypot competing against Tuta and want to gain marketshare.

After all, intelligence agencies are guaranteed to be the first one's who discovered Ortis was selling secret information. Might as well give him fake information to spread around and make criminals doubt any previous information sold by him.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 day ago

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Where there's smoke, there often is fire. If you don't trust the allegations, fine.

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