incidentally, i agree with all this. but what a theist would probably say in response is that if god exists, he defines what evil is. what you perceive as evil is just your perception and can be wrong.

its not a bad argument, but i believe contrarily we have deep moral intuitions and can generally rationalize them in a kantian way, i believe we can make moral judgements independently of god.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

if god exists, he defines what evil is.

There's no way to make babies having cancer moral. There's no version of that god that is any good. If this isn't a test, why give babies cancer?