The crux of the problem is once again the modernized version of Christianity. Where hell has been written out and Adolf Hitler goes to heaven because "Jesus died for his sins".

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If there is no evil how can there be good?

Easy. You take the world as it is right now...and then remove the evil things. Evil is a metaphysical concept. We often use analogies of light and dark, but it doesn't literally work that way.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Then how does the concept of life as a test work when humans can do no evil?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

First, you'll note that I started this conversation by conceding free will and concentrating my discussion of evil on evils that are not performed by humans, but by the planet itself, or by fundamental biology.

But as for "the concept of life as a test"...why is something supposedly omniscient performing a test? It should already know the result of said test, thus making the test itself irrelevant. That's what omniscience is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Evil existing is necessary for a test in good and evil. Whether done by humans or natural causes.

Angels were created as perfect servants who obey all commands without free will. Humans were created as the opposite. Those who have free will to perform both good and evil.

It should already know the result of said test, thus making the test itself irrelevant. That’s what omniscience is.

An all-powerful entity is not bound by paradoxes. If that was the case it would end at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox which is even more extreme than the free-will paradox for which some explanations can be thought of.