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And yet Kremlin can't stop from propping up the fascist Legionnaires in Romania "for democracy".
The Soviet Union just after the war supported the so-called "Socialist Imperial Party" in Western Germany, until it was banned there. That party, as you might have guessed, was basically rebranded Nazis.
LOL the western propaganda press suddenly quit reporting about that 'Russian influence' lie when it was proven it was the Romanian liberals who did it.
You should keep up with the lies you parrot.
I love how you're getting downvoted for stating factual information that's been reported in mainstream western media https://www.politico.eu/article/investigation-ties-romanian-liberals-tiktok-campaign-pro-russia-candidate-calin-georgescu/
Never stated Kremlin was the only one backing Georgescu, liberals also had their role to play in this farce. But I meant the "Vlad the Impaler" paramilitary fascist group with direct ties to Moscow https://www.rferl.org/a/romania-vlad-the-impaler-group-russia-coup-plot-treason/33348058.html
Oh hey, weird how this wasn't a problem until Georgescu started running. He was in Romanian politics and even in the government for a long time last I checked, so clearly Romanian regime didn't have a problem with fascist groups before. And all of a sudden they started caring when it became convenient for them. Seems to me that it's not fascism that's the problem for them.
Yes, I fully agree that the government tolerated these fringe groups for too long. There is no excuse for that. They suddenly gained visibility recently, and part of the group of actors involved in that rise in notoriety is Moscow.
Again, it's very clear that it's not fascism that the government takes issue with.
Fully agree, sadly Romania has nothing anywhere near anything resembling socialism, corruption is rampant with or without fascists taking center stage. If it's not American bootlickers in power, it's so called "suveranists" who would bend over backwards for anyone giving them an edge in local politics.
How is this a lie, parrot? https://www.rferl.org/a/romania-vlad-the-impaler-group-russia-coup-plot-treason/33348058.html
Radio Free Europe?
I'm just not going to comment and let everyone laugh at your source.
AP news: https://apnews.com/article/romania-russia-treason-coup-plot-detain-diicot-437213648450f20031f76b53266ce50c
Wiki in Romanian about the group https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comandamentul_Vlad_%C8%9Aepe%C8%99
Some more Romanian sources: https://newsweek.ro/actualitate/doi-membri-ai-gruparii-vlad-tepes-arestati-alti-patru-lasati-acasa-sub-control-judiciar
https://www.gandul.ro/actualitate/negocierile-dintre-membrii-gruparii-comandamentul-vlad-tepes-si-moscova-in-mai-o-sa-porneasca-agitatie-ce-s-a-vorbit-despre-calin-georgescu-20458493
https://www.stiripesurse.ro/ce-este-si-cand-a-fost-infiintat-comandamentul-vlad-tepes-condus-de-general-in-varsta-de-101-ani-cum-arata-planul-de-reorganizare-al-lui-radu-theodoru_3604855.html
Discredit those too, please
And then, discredit their own admission of the facts while you're at it: https://www.stiripesurse.ro/prosecutors-release-report-on-getia-treason-case-intercepted-conversation-excerpts-included_3605815.html
I certainly will.
I'm supposed to read Romanian now? Did you have too many Ursus or palinka? The only one not in Romanian is the garbage and biased western source AP.
Even that says: "suspected of" and "allegedly".
The normal tactics to throw accusations WITHOUT any PROOF.
When you're going to make claims you need proof, not this BS.
This is just made up shit to justify their illegal actions of not honoring the election result by the US puppets.
And there certainly isn't an 'admission'
Yes, you are supposed to read Romanian if you're arguing with a Romanian about events happening in their own country.
The made up shit I see so far in this thread is handwaving dismissal of sources without any back up whatsoever. What sources do you present that contradicts what I claimed so far, aside from laughing at sources dismissively?
Again you have no sources, just allegations.
Sources prove stuff, if not it's worthless
This is how you do it:
https://www.politico.eu/article/investigation-ties-romanian-liberals-tiktok-campaign-pro-russia-candidate-calin-georgescu/
"The center-right Romanian National Liberal Party paid for a campaign" etc, notice that there's no alledgedly or suspected?
It gives details
who specifically did it: PNL-employee firm, Kensington Communication
how they did it: The firm paid 130 influencers co-opted on the FameUp platform
All backed up by a declassified document of the CSAT and in a report of the Expert Forum.
https://www.presidency.ro/files/userfiles/Documente%20CSAT/Document%20CSAT%20MAI.pdf
That is how you reason and make an argument.
Now admit it was the liberals, that they shamelessly blamed the Russians and your vasal state illegaly corrupted the elections.
We may be arguing past each other.
The proof you provided, I never denied. I am painfully well aware of the liberal psy-op.
My claim: Kremlin agents supported a fascist nationalist group (that also consider Georgescu the real president) called "Vlad Tepes" in a plan to overthrow the government. This is still not refuted by anyone. The only sources I found in English you dismissed out of hand, while the investigation in Romania is still ongoing.