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I'm so disgusted by hypocrisy of all the blue MAGAts so disgustingly silent about Trump bombings of Yemen and massacre in Gaza
These hypocrites were so loud about tariffs against Canada and Mexico
They don't care about things that do not impact them, or people near them.
it's because they are terrorists
Indeed, which is ironic, given that their justification for their campaigns of extermination in the middle east is always "but Arabs are terrorists!"
yeah more like just hamas and houthis and their supporters
Yeah yeah, just like Nelson Mandela
in that he laid down arms and made peace and eventually governed the whole country?
that madiba?
Yes, he too was a terrorist.
and to make progress they stopped being terrorists
Nope, they were terrorists until they won
"winning" was making peace with his oppressors
there must be some differences because the same approach doesn't seem to be working for hamas, or maybe it's not the same approach
would you like to compare them to the IRA too?
Winning meant taking control of South Africa. I'm sure if Israel is willing to give Palestinians control of Israel, they'll happily make peace
they can talk about that at the negotiations they'll have
again because the situation is very different i doubt that will happen, would have to agree that it's one country first eh? and the electorate is quite different too
Lol, the South African resistance didn't just throw down their arms before they secured their goals. Do you think Mandela just went to Botha and said "pretty please give me the country uwu."
you obviously see hamas and ANC to be in similar situations
so what's the next step for hamas using the ANC plan?
Indeed, because they are similar.
The same thing as ever; keep resisting until Israel implodes under the weight of its own fascist death drive domestically, and overwhelming disgust abroad.
the reason why there isn't overwhelming disgust abroad and israel is not imploding is because the indigenous jews survived another fascist death drive in the 30s/40s, and they are the majority now
that's the important difference
they did overreact to oct 7th but there are still hostages
it's not that similar to south africa
Well there is exponentially increasing disgust abroad, and Israel is firmly in the cycle of self destruction that eliminationist fascism inevitably experiences (ironically the same one Nazi Germany did), so your point is moot, though even if the facts are what you say, it would be odd to say that the Holocaust then at all effects the viability of Israel's project of colonial genocide.
exponential? hardly. most people are more worried about trump and putin
lol i meant the arab/jewish wars
Yes, exponentially.
Ok, that doesn't change my point. It's also not true, but it wouldn't change my point if it was.
which part isn't true?
so no peace plan eh? i think even hamas are vaguely attempting to negotiate something
Least incoherent zionist genocide supporter.
that's better than zionazi although that did make me think of islamofascist which made me giggle
???
still haven't told me which part of what i said wasn't true
I mean, I have. But given that you've already committed to being outright incoherent, it's no surprise that you'll also just lie.
I'm kinda still salty about letting agent orange back in the wh but what would you like me to do? I'm not really that knowledgeable on the subject so it's kinda difficult for me to form an argument other than, "let's not kill people." If that's your advise I'll give it a try. Again.
It affects them so you know what they will care and removed about.
They are even worse than maga bcs they're so disgustingly self absorbed and pretentious they think they are on the right side.
I really hope they get what they deserve.
Ukraine affects me as a fellow European.
I'm not on the right side, I just want my family to live in peace.
Tariffs don't matter. The energy crisis didn't matter. COVID restrictions didn't matter. Those are just economic struggles.
It's safety that matters most.
Israel has been expanding their territory over the past century, it has been well covered by the media every time there's stuff happening. I remember Israeli taking the home of a Palestine family and the Palestinians just had to leave. This was a few years prior to the Hamas shooting at a festival.
If governments weren't handling Ukraine situation, energy crisis, COVID, etc. Then nothing would be happening.
There's people on the street here in Belgium, mostly young people and people from middle Eastern descent.
There is nothing less safe than the US/NATO fueled paranoia and warmongering Russophobia.
And the spineless governments of EU aren't handling anything.
They do everything the US tells them to in the case of ex-ukraine or israel.
Nothing but vasals.
That they are sad now bcs their owner doesn't respect them while they've been such obedient little helpers will not change anything.
All it is is embarrassing.
People fail to see Europe's place in the food chain, our media certainly won't admit this.
And neither will they admit the consequences.
What they, and you as a result from their BS reporting, mislabel as 'energy crisis' is a direct result from sanctions and the pure US terrorist act of blowing up Nordstream.
You better believe that matters.
It means we can't compete economically, companies are relocating and we will be in massive trouble.
And to make it worse they double down and decide to spend even more money we haven't got on US weapons.
Who do you think will have to pay for that?
And all it does is get ups a step closer to war and put a large part of the population in poverty.
And I mean poverty like never seen before.
Well maybe not never since the situation is exactly like the 1930's.
And it will have the same result.
Angry population voting for extreme right.
The last step before we're ready to be sent to the Ostfront again.
Sure, about 50, the rest of the apathetic youth is gazing at their phone.
We didn't invade Ukraine, Russia did.
We have quite a lot of money. We can definitely invest in defense, and we will.
This is sadly how mainstream liberals have always behaved. I remember when all the anti-war folks seemed to disappear into thin air once Obama got elected. I guess extrajudicial drone strikes are cool when Democrats do it.
This is exactly the problem with lumping in everyone who is not a Trump supporter as "liberals". You end up with this completely misguided impression of who "liberals" are and what "liberals" do. It's become a meaningless term.
Seems to be a common feature of US politics that words lose their meanings and become distorted into vague aspersions about categories of people, which in practice take on the meaning of "the enemy" or at least "the other", words degraded so that their main purpose is to divide.
Liberals as in a supporter of liberal or neoliberal economics, the Democratic Party is neoliberal. There were absolutely liberals who would justify the US striking Yemeni civilians and civilian infrastructure (like the commercial airport) as "FAFO, get rekt terrorists" because the Houthis had the morally correct position of imposing a blockade to apply pressure on the US and Israel to end the genocide. Which the Houthis followed through and stopped implementing the blockade during the ceasefire. All in the context of Yemen being under a US-Saudi-Israeli backed genocide that's been ongoing for years.