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[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

The mere fact that they are in the act of a counter offensive after Russia tried to blitz then shows that it's not even close to what you're describing.

Ukraine is holding their current territory pretty easily and gaining the upper hand very clearly.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Russia tried to blitz

The mere fact that you believe this shows how steeped in western propaganda you are

At no point was Russia's strategy a blitz, this is a lie meant to equate Russia with nazi Germany and Pitin With Hitler even though it's still ukkkraine celebrating Bandara as a national hero

No Russia's gameplan from the start has been what it has been for almost 100 years, Soviet tactics not that that coked up nazi blitzkreig bullshit

The attack on Kiev was likely a feint

Ukraine is holding their current territory pretty easily and gaining the upper hand very clearly.

The cope levels are off the charts

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah their Blitz was only a fake and their strategy is lose like they do right now.

Cope lmao

[-] CamaradeBoina@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

There is nothing funny about the situation.

Ukraine is enacting mass conscription now, is including their medical staff, is trying to make students leave their studies to join up, has expanded conscription to 16 year olds and grandads, and is actively trying to draw in EU/NATO countries in the frey risking all out war (Romania is the latest one).

Shit's absolutely fucked. We are talking hundreds of thousands of casualties, an entire generation of Ukrainian either maimed, dead, or gone from Ukraine out right,mass sweeping liberalization reforms in an already poor as fuck country destroying the few labour rights that existed before the war. Members of pacifist organizations are being put on trial. And that's the state that you libs are defending?

The war is not going well.

And to be clear, neither is it for Russia. Principled communists and anti-war people are being arrested too, and the initial partial mobilization brought people to th front who would rather have not. There is similar repression, and economic hardship to the common people. There also was mass emigration (particularly to Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria, and others).

What is it you want really?

Have more common people die for nothing? Escalate things to "deal with Russia" which means inherently an overt NATO/Russia war (which it seems barring the Baltic members, no one wants) inevitably leading to all out nuclear war?

Are you mad?? This isn't a sport's game. Be serious. You are deeply propagandized and itts leading you to deeply irrational positions.

[-] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Back in '41, the nazis had the Russians on the back foot. Killing them by the millions. Did the Russians give up their country? Did they complain they had to conscript students?

Fuck no

They conscripted basically everybody. They pleaded the US for weapons and got them so they could make their sacrifice count.

They turned the tide, freed their country and beat the invaders back to the point their leader chose to off himself rather than face their wrath.

Now you're saying the Ukrainians should surrender because none of it matters??

[-] CamaradeBoina@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Not every war can be compared to WW2.

Russia isn't Nazi Germany, the situation is far more akin to the WW1.

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