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It’s apparent the Frankenstein’s monster of a combat vehicle is even less than the sum of its crude components.

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[–] matchphoenix@feddit.uk 87 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Crazy that two years ago we thought this was the second best military in the world. They’ve currently got the second best military in Ukraine.

[–] TechnicalCreative@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eh, you can never be too sure that they’re that incapable. There was a post from some Ukrainians the other day, saying that despite all the articles deeming the Russian military tragically useless, there are still some bloodthirsty and horrendous people fighting for Russia out there on the battlefield. And it is a bloody battlefield for both sides, whether the people there want to be a part of it or not.

But on the other hand I suppose it is reassuring for western countries citizens to read all the articles saying how weak Russia might be.

[–] coffeetest@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone considers them not to be incredibly dangerous. But in terms of logistics, organization, strategy, and leadership they have proven to be nothing like they were imagined.

I am no expert but my understanding is that plain old artillery is the main tool being used in this conflict, and that's like how long have people been shooting cannons at one another? If you have 20x as much artillery as your more competent opponent you're still very dangerous.

I wish Ukraine the vs the invaders and I think they will prevail, but there is no doubt the cost will be high.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean we now see a war between two conventional forces where neither has a clear technological advantage. We havent had that in a long time. It is very well possible, that shooting cannons at each other will still be up to date in terms of tactics in 500 years like it was 500 years ago.

[–] coffeetest@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Or sticks depending on how it goes.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Well they don't seem to be that strong to me.

Tfw your defensive line gets breached 530 days into your 3 day offensive.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The russians that are smart enough to innovate left Russia because of Putin. These are the leftovers.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -1 points 1 year ago

Bloodthirsty, horrendous doesn't mean strong. You can be a bad person and still be a useless soldier.

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