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[–] taxiiiii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (12 children)

If you imprison someone for life, you're still keeping others safe though? And killing someone who puts out fake news doesn't necessarily stop those news from spreading, worst case, you have a martyr.

I'm from Germany and the death penalty has been forbidden since the 50s, for context.

[–] ubergeek 2 points 1 week ago (11 children)

If you imprison someone for life, you’re still keeping others safe though?

No, containment doesn't work to stop fascism. As long as the person can talk, they can spread it.

And killing someone who puts out fake news doesn’t necessarily stop those news from spreading, worst case, you have a martyr.

Yes, it does work. We already found deplatforming fascist works, we just stopped doing it. That would just be "deplatforming them from earth".

As far as martyrs go? Well, that makes it easier to identify the next round of fascists that need to be eliminated.

We learned that lesson in the 1940's.

I’m from Germany and the death penalty has been forbidden since the 50s, for context.

And that's likely one reason why the AfD is gaining power there.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As long as the person can talk, they can spread it.

Nope, isolation is a thing and with that I don't mean torture I mean a psychologist is going to talk to you about the sportsball results or whatever keeps you sane and that's it. It's why you hear practically nothing about Anders Breivik.

What we should re-introduce for these cases is an updated version of damnatio memoriae

[–] ubergeek -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope, isolation is a thing and with that I don’t mean torture I mean a psychologist is going to talk to you about the sportsball results or whatever keeps you sane and that’s it. It’s why you hear practically nothing about Anders Breivik.

And leave the possibility of the medical pros being radicalized, and converted?

No.

Kill them. a 7.62mm round is more than sufficient.

Are we literally forgetting the bloody lesson of the 1940s?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And leave the possibility of the medical pros being radicalized, and converted?

Yes.

Are we literally forgetting the bloody lesson of the 1940s?

Precisely the opposite: Sanctity of life is the exact opposite of Nazi doctrine.

It's not always easy. There was a case in Germany where a serial rapist murderer was sentenced to indefinite psych ward lockup (insanity plea) and he did manage to not just seduce, but also marry, one of the female nurses. Court is to this day refusing visitation, the only way the two see each other is through plexiglass. Authorities, of course, learn from these kinds of cases: While they considered him, from the very start, psychopathic enough so that noone would ever be alone in a room with him, they didn't have safeguards in place when it came to talking through plexiglass, and now there's this awkward situation of the infatuated nurse-wife. Which means that now there's precautions regarding these kinds of things in place.

Back to Anders: That clown doesn't have the rizz to pull such a thing off.

[–] ubergeek 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about serial murderers. I'm talking about people.guilty of crimes against humanity.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago

And...? What's your point? That Breivik has rizz?

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