this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
664 points (94.1% liked)
Memes
45732 readers
548 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
The narrative shifts second to second. One moment it's an all powerful hegemony that pulls all the strings, the next it's getting crushed by Russia.
NATO is both a super-powerful bogeyman, and weak and helpless, depending on what most helps the current agenda.
https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
See #8
I’m rubber your glue, now you have to explain why Russia is hilariously incompetent and weak and simultaneously managing to brainwash people 5,000 miles away inside Americas own borders with a tiny fraction of America’s own media and propaganda power
Well I do like to say that if Russia spent its troll farm money on its military instead, then it could afford the military it pretended to have.
Tongue in cheek, obviously troll farms are way more cost effective.
And it's not like anyone was actually brainwashed into being a Russian agent. It's just trolls who regurgitate pre-programmed talking points. And it's really easy to walk into an alt-right or tankie bubble, list off a few in-group signals, and then just say things that already line up with their confirmation bias.
Actually I have a theory that the libs are the ones being targeted and brainwashed by Russian talking points. The Russians have convinced the libs that they secretly control everything and that everybody who disagrees with them is a Russian spy or a bot. The libs in turn act completley deranged about the Russian menace, thereby losing credibility in the eyes of their own countrymen and the world, and making foolish decisions of all sorts. They successfully are dividing our country by making the libs paranoid and distrustful. It’s truly a sad way for our country to be torn apart.
The proof is right there lol.
Russian propaganda successfully convinced everyone that Russia had on of the most modern, powerful, well trained armies in the world. This is well documented. Most of the West predicted the fall of Ukraine within days.
The funny thing about a propaganda army, is that it can't fight a real war for you. The Ukraine invasion stripped away the illusion, and the world got to see the real Russian military behind the facade.
Absolutely not, but it's really easy to spot someone with incoherent rhetoric, that dances back and forth, and parrots pretty predictable lines they got online.
Exactly what you are doing, which confirms my suspicions that you’ve fallen into the Russian propaganda trap! You need to snap out of it!
Snap me out of it, point out which part is incoherent, MrRubberandGlue.
America actually sucks ass on its own merits, Russia isn’t responsible for any of America’s problems (since America is the sole global superpower and has absolute control over itself and a great deal of the rest of the world) and the fact that you seek out an external boogeyman to blame really only proves that you’re a highly propagandized jingoist incapable of facing this reality.
Oh I 100% agree. I don't think Russian propaganda is seriously influencing America, not any more anyway. Maybe Russia tipped the scales in 2016 enough to get Trump elected, maybe not. I think everyone has adapted to it now.
I think Russia impact online right now amounts to just making the internet a less fun place to be, because of the annoying trolls. I don't take it very seriously.
American capitalism would self destruct even if Russia did not exist.
Fair enough, have a great day