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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The company’s “base case,” the report said, was that the world was moving toward a temperature increase of 3 degrees Celsius.

What many people might not fully understand is that a world at +3℃ is one in which BILLIONS will die within a few short years.

There are two major things that will cause this:

  1. Lethally high wet bulb temperatures, to the point where modern consumer-grade air conditioning ceases to effectively function. These high wet-bulb temperatures will strike roughly between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn, and even a spell of as little as a week can kill most people in a region. About 4 Billion will have no choice but to migrate to the temperate regions or die.
  2. Chaotic weather making any significant agriculture impossible. Even backyard gardens will be rendered useless. A warmer planet means a dryer planet, as hotter air pulls vastly more moisture out of the soil than before, and prevents rain from condensing out far more effectively. But when the rain does fall, it will also fall that much more severely, damaging or even killing off crops that cannot handle those deluges. And when 80+% of all crops are either directly or indirectly dependent on timely and predictable rain, neither too much nor too little…

And with the acceleration of warming in the last few years, +3℃ appears to be most likely to be reached shortly after 2035.

Yes, we have only about a decade before billions begin to die of the heat directly, or via starvation.

Fun times. Here I thought I was lucky, in that most of this shite was forecast for 2050 and beyond, well past my expected lifespan… looks like I’ll be in the trenches just like everyone else.

And once again, stuff is happening “much sooner than expected”.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

About 4 Billion will have no choice but to migrate to the temperate regions or die.

Well yeah, sort of. 4 billion aren't migrating. Millions migrate, billions perish.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

What many people might not fully understand is that a world at +3℃ is one in which BILLIONS will die within a few short years.

People don't care, the ones causing this assume they won't be (the richeset 20%) and many of the rest don't agree ot sna issie anyway. Anyone who voted D or R at last years Presidential election is just reinforcing the orthodoxy of stupidity.as but one example.

Another exmaple, we kill 9 million a year from hunger, another 9 million a year from pollution. Anyone here give enough of a fcuk to stop driving their car ? In a decade thats something like 180million deaths there alone. Have you tred to get people to give up a coffee a week to help ? nearly impossible.

Just look a the issie with homlessness and immigrants.. Shit's given over actual humans ? Near fcuking zero.

We do not give a shit, we're petty, stupid and greedy at our core, it is after all why we're in this mess.

Bring on collpase ;)